Stone Soup Engine Swap
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elizillaEver heard the folks story about the guy who starts making stone soup, and everyone brings out something to put in it? Last weekend, we started putting together a bike like that. Here are all the details you never wanted to know, about ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
mistrtoad's V65 Sabre engine swap.
Some of you have visited here in the past, when my garage was dark and cold and messy. It's been vastly upgraded over the last several years. Thanks again topi3832 and hotwire7 for their assistance with that! (Pictures before and after.) I think the most appreciated upgrade this weekend was the garage furnace. It's actually quite pleasant out there now.
In the after picture, you can see a Sabre frame sitting over near the wall. This is the frame that the donor engine came out of. The engine itself is tucked out of view behind the bikes.mistrtoad took this engine out pretty much singlehandedly, a couple weeks ago. More recently, M's Sabre and the TDM were both moved to mistrtoad and xtatic1's garage, to make space here before mistrtoad brought over the bike he is putting this engine into. I hope I get them back. ;-)
So Chris P called Friday to see what time we wanted to start. We agreed to start around 10-ish. Fortunately he and Michael J didn't get here until 10:15, so I managed to be out of bed and dressed when they arrived. We calledmistrtoad and told him to get over here, and he eventually did.
They quickly got the engine out of the second bike. The carb intake boots are shot, they tore and crumbled. No one had any more, so the carbs can't go back in untilmistrtoad orders some.
mistrtoad and Chris adjusted the donor engine's valves and discovered it has bad cams. The donor engine had once had an oil mod, which the person who gave this engine to mistrtoad had removed and kept. We speculated that the bad cams had been discovered by the PO and the oil mod put on to halt the damage. At least we hope they didn't get like that during the time while the oil mod was installed. Fortunately M had a DD oil mod he ordered ages ago and had never installed, so we put that on the bike.
I drove Michael J back to his house to get some powder-coated valve covers he had agreed to donate to the cause. While we were there he dug up a few gaskets, and some o-rings for the coolant crossover tubes. They hadn't been leaking but there's no sense in not replacing them while we're in this far.
xtatic1 donated an oil filter to the cause, because with the oil mod the bike needs a different size oil filter, the same one as the Nighthawk.
sendthewolf arrived in time to help wrestle the engine back into the bike.
I had a few of the exhaust gasketsmistrtoad needs, but no one had any of those copper crush washer exhaust gaskets. He'll need to order those before he can put the exhaust on.
They used Ray's method to clean the carbs, lots and lots of Brake-Kleen. They weren't too varnished so they should be OK.
Let's see, what else is there to know?
Even though I now have a five foot tall rolling tool cabinet full of tools, I STILL had to go out and buy even more tools. Fortunately there's a new Harbor Freight a half mile from my house and a set of metric wrenches that are bent on the ends to reach into crevasses, was only $8. I also had to make several trips to the auto parts store for various types of goo. I had three tubes of locktite - blue, green, and white, but we needed red. None of the greases I had on the shelf contained moly, and I didn't have any copper RTV. Seems like I could use up some of the stuff I have, before buying more, but the bottles and jars and tubes just keep multiplying out there.
We had chinese food for lunch, pizza and beer for dinner. We talked about those who were not present, so if anyone's ears were burning last Saturday night, that's why.
On Sunday Chris and Mike came back and helped me replace the clutch basket in the V-Strom. This went much quicker and easier than the engine swap. We left it not quite done, still needing oil and coolant put in, and went to lunch at the coney island, and from there people went home. I came home by myself and put in the coolant and oil, and started the V-Strom up. It sounds much, much quieter. The old clutch basket's springs are really loose, no wonder there was so much noise. Unfortunately, my clutch doesn't work now and I can't figure out why.hotwire7 says he'll come over this weekend and help me figure out what is happening. I'm sure we'll get it sorted.
mistrtoad came back on Sunday afternoon and cleaned up the perfectly astounding mess we had made in there over the weekend, leaving the garage cleaner than we started, and M's parking place clear. Yay!
As soon asmistrtoad gets the parts he needs, the rest of the bike can go back together. Anyone want to donate some carb boots and some exhaust gaskets to the cause?
Here are a few photos of the weekend's activities.
mistrtoad's V65 Sabre engine swap.Some of you have visited here in the past, when my garage was dark and cold and messy. It's been vastly upgraded over the last several years. Thanks again to
pi3832 and hotwire7 for their assistance with that! (Pictures before and after.) I think the most appreciated upgrade this weekend was the garage furnace. It's actually quite pleasant out there now.In the after picture, you can see a Sabre frame sitting over near the wall. This is the frame that the donor engine came out of. The engine itself is tucked out of view behind the bikes.
mistrtoad took this engine out pretty much singlehandedly, a couple weeks ago. More recently, M's Sabre and the TDM were both moved to mistrtoad and xtatic1's garage, to make space here before mistrtoad brought over the bike he is putting this engine into. I hope I get them back. ;-)So Chris P called Friday to see what time we wanted to start. We agreed to start around 10-ish. Fortunately he and Michael J didn't get here until 10:15, so I managed to be out of bed and dressed when they arrived. We called
mistrtoad and told him to get over here, and he eventually did.They quickly got the engine out of the second bike. The carb intake boots are shot, they tore and crumbled. No one had any more, so the carbs can't go back in until
mistrtoad orders some.mistrtoad and Chris adjusted the donor engine's valves and discovered it has bad cams. The donor engine had once had an oil mod, which the person who gave this engine to mistrtoad had removed and kept. We speculated that the bad cams had been discovered by the PO and the oil mod put on to halt the damage. At least we hope they didn't get like that during the time while the oil mod was installed. Fortunately M had a DD oil mod he ordered ages ago and had never installed, so we put that on the bike.I drove Michael J back to his house to get some powder-coated valve covers he had agreed to donate to the cause. While we were there he dug up a few gaskets, and some o-rings for the coolant crossover tubes. They hadn't been leaking but there's no sense in not replacing them while we're in this far.
xtatic1 donated an oil filter to the cause, because with the oil mod the bike needs a different size oil filter, the same one as the Nighthawk.sendthewolf arrived in time to help wrestle the engine back into the bike.I had a few of the exhaust gaskets
mistrtoad needs, but no one had any of those copper crush washer exhaust gaskets. He'll need to order those before he can put the exhaust on.They used Ray's method to clean the carbs, lots and lots of Brake-Kleen. They weren't too varnished so they should be OK.
Let's see, what else is there to know?
Even though I now have a five foot tall rolling tool cabinet full of tools, I STILL had to go out and buy even more tools. Fortunately there's a new Harbor Freight a half mile from my house and a set of metric wrenches that are bent on the ends to reach into crevasses, was only $8. I also had to make several trips to the auto parts store for various types of goo. I had three tubes of locktite - blue, green, and white, but we needed red. None of the greases I had on the shelf contained moly, and I didn't have any copper RTV. Seems like I could use up some of the stuff I have, before buying more, but the bottles and jars and tubes just keep multiplying out there.
We had chinese food for lunch, pizza and beer for dinner. We talked about those who were not present, so if anyone's ears were burning last Saturday night, that's why.
On Sunday Chris and Mike came back and helped me replace the clutch basket in the V-Strom. This went much quicker and easier than the engine swap. We left it not quite done, still needing oil and coolant put in, and went to lunch at the coney island, and from there people went home. I came home by myself and put in the coolant and oil, and started the V-Strom up. It sounds much, much quieter. The old clutch basket's springs are really loose, no wonder there was so much noise. Unfortunately, my clutch doesn't work now and I can't figure out why.
hotwire7 says he'll come over this weekend and help me figure out what is happening. I'm sure we'll get it sorted.mistrtoad came back on Sunday afternoon and cleaned up the perfectly astounding mess we had made in there over the weekend, leaving the garage cleaner than we started, and M's parking place clear. Yay!As soon as
mistrtoad gets the parts he needs, the rest of the bike can go back together. Anyone want to donate some carb boots and some exhaust gaskets to the cause?Here are a few photos of the weekend's activities.
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Date: 2006-02-02 04:52 am (UTC)But seriously, I looked at the pictures and felt sad that I missed out.
None of the greases I had on the shelf contained moly...
There should be a tub of Valvoline grease on your shelf, which says it meets "Ford" specifications, that has moly in it. (Why am I using brain cells to remember this stuff?)
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Date: 2006-02-02 05:20 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-02 05:03 am (UTC)Isn't red loctite the "you ain't never gettin' this bolt out. No way, no how." loctite, or do I have it confused with the white? What would need that kind of loctiting?
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Date: 2006-02-02 05:17 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-02 04:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-03 09:13 pm (UTC)We used red Loctite on the oil spigot on the oil mod kit as well.
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Date: 2006-02-12 04:46 am (UTC)J/K :-D
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Date: 2006-02-02 05:04 am (UTC)The only mechanical fun that I got to have this weekend was tearing apart the CB360T carbs (or one of them) to find a yellow jacket hibernating in it and then dump it into chem-dip....
Oh well...
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Date: 2006-02-02 02:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-02 03:25 pm (UTC)